Hike in / Car-Shuttle to search for lost trails...

Hey Andrew,

did you find this trail? There are a couple of other trails in that area as well that don't see much traffic. I wonder if you any of those while you were up there? I know that area a little bit if you need someone to show you around. Sundays work the best for me.

Also, I talked to John Borkwood yesterday and he mentioned you were doing some gps work in the High Pony area. If you need any help once again I am free sundays. Mornings are preferrable. Let me know, as I will be going for a ride otherwise. Maybe I'll chance riding High Pony tommorrow if this weather holds up. Could be fun/scary!

See ya,
Karl.

Karl,

Didn't hear back from anyone on that offer, that day, so ended up going out to Mt.Keogan and running some tracks there instead. I’ve spoken to Wolfgang, who it appears (?), is responsible for some of the other trails adjacent to Code 4 / Knuckle-Duster. He is, at this point, a little stand-offish about revealing the whereabouts to the trails he has constructed up there… However, he did leave a little light of possibility shine through in regards to showing me a trail or two :-) I realize that he has constructed some stuff where it sounds like he’s put literally months and months of work into them, and they are his private Gems; and a couple of them sound like they’re full-on psycho-structures.. but I’d like it to be him that shows us as a club; the No Frothers and Spewing Forth Redness routes. That way I’ll get the feeling that he’s given us his ‘its all cool’ on publishing at least those ‘generic’ routes. The rest of his stuff; the “right off the deep end / overkill” wooden structure stuff he described to me the other day - I’m comfortable with leaving it off the radar and allowing him to have his private place to groove out…

I'm up for a hike of High Pony tomorrow (Sunday) however. I don't know if there'll be snow up near the Top Crossing - so I think I'll just hoof it instead of riding. John also expressed interest in doing the same. I have a suspicion that the H.P. loop has more trails dropping off it heading west these days, than what is shown on the 'classic' T.B.M map we’ve all seen (https://servimg.com/view/13201782/6)

I have several GPS devices on hand and I'm sure that John has one as well - I could give you a GPS to hold onto in case there are trails branching off south of the Top Crossing. What I suggest is that some members of our group of three could drop off High Pony on unmarked ‘New’ trails heading west as we made our way along it, with one person staying on the main trail to get it’s route down pat on GPS. The other two (or more if folks want to join us), dropping off and meeting up again on FireBreak Rd. or perhaps lower, on Black-Bear. What this would accomplish is that we could get three (or more) trails GPS'd in one shot. The existing stuff on the map (link above) is vaguely accurate, but there are definite inaccuracies and a lot of stuff that simply doesn't appear at all.

John; do you ride bike as well? If you do, we could do this as a ride instead of a hike; it’d be a lot faster!

Andrew D.